BT: When I did a solo concert in 2009
at the Vortex, Monica Vasconcelos - a Brazilian
singer living in London - suggested that Adriano could come and sit in. We did
some songs and it went great. Then in 2010 , Luiza Morandi, my producer, also
living in London at that time, proposed another session: just one afternoon, recording
at the Vortex. It went so well, that we decided to launch as a record.
AA: The music happened very naturally
and it has been each time is both a surprise and a reassurance of the magical
mix of the duo.
Q. Your music seems to subtly deconstruct popular Brazilian
music and build it into something new. What is the thinking behind the
compositions?
BT: I
think we are both immersed in the Brazilian Music and traditions. So I believe
we both feel very comfortable to let the inspiration and the moment to guide
us. And of course, some new and unexpected things come out of it.
AA: The
human connection, the similarities in the musical palate, but also the life
story of each of us. How we come to be as we are. It all goes to the music, and
to the moment. Always the moment!!
Q. Do you improvise when you play together?
AA: Everything
is improvised. There is no ideas that we put together to depart from. It is
always a new story, a trusting exercise and a state of opened mind which opens
the channel for the music to happen.
BT: It’s
100% improvised. Sometimes we go for some known songs. But they just appear –
it’s not planned. So the way we may end up playing can be also a surprise to
us.
Q. Brazil’s prominence in the world, economically,
culturally, seems to be increasing. Is this having an impact on Brazilian
music?
AA: From
the outside of Brazil, what I can perceive is a growing interest in Brazilian
music, I mean beyond samba and bossa nova. Many musicians are now exploring new
rhythms and styles of Brazilian music.
BT: Hmmm…
I think that more self confidence has started to develop. Brazil has an amazing
living body of traditional music. And also a beautiful story of its evolution. So
there’s still so much to be discovered by everyone, including ourselves. One
writer-researcher from the first half of the 20th century - Mario de Andrade - used
the expression of a ‘learning tourist’ - that make sense , even noa days.
Q. Benjamin – you work in many musical areas, from Symphonic
to solo. Could you say something about your approach to music?
BT: It’s
always related to a combination of an ‘interal’ hearing and the outside... When
I’m playing in any format, I try to listen: to the music that is been played by
the others and also my internal reaction to it. If the music doesn’t speak to
me, I try to not play… I’ll just wait.
Q. Adriano – can you give us an insight into the instruments
you play?
AA: Percussion
for me is an orchestra. You can drive the rhythms, but for me, the beauty of it
is the colours you can play with. This is what makes it for me; the joy to be
able to change the characteristics of the music in so many ways. I also like
the fact that percussion is very human, you find different percussion
instruments everywhere you go. They are intrinsically related to the people,
the environment and the culture where they come from. Voice, drums, metal
pieces, water, shakers, it all makes the percussion a great instrument.
Q. Bossa Nova is at the root of much Brazilian music – and
is still popular around the world – why do you think it’s so popular?
AA: Bossa
isn't necessarily the roots of Brazilian music. Bossa itself was inspired by
its ancestors Samba and Choro music. The style is great harmonically,
melodically and rhythmically. I think bossa nova players went abroad and it
happened to be in the US. It was a great timing, America picked up on it and
that music went out to the world. It was the first thing people got to know
about Brazilian music. But there is a lot more to it.
BT: I
think it is because it became so linked to the idea of a good life, it’s relaxing,
enjoyable, sunny. It has sophistication - in harmony, rhythm and melody, and at
the same time a kind of easy going. Funnily enough, it’s now considered dated
in Brazil. Even Tom Jobim, the creator of this style, moved on further in the
70s and 80s. But for the rest of the world it stayed on as part of global music.
Q. Benjamim, one of your songs is called Impressions of
Ireland. How did the writing of this piece come about?
BT: When
we did the session in 2010, I was just coming back directly from Ireland – for me a land of magic and
myths.
Q. Another song is called Samba. Is Brazilian carnival
culture important in your work?
BT: Samba
is played in Carnival - in one format: the school of samba and parade. But
samba is also the daily music of a big part of Brazil. It is the source of Bossa-Nova,
Choro, and MPB. So for me, I see it more as a traditional rhythm from the
favelas, rather than as a manifestation of Carnival.
AA:
Samba is a very popular rhythm and music style, and very important indeed. I
grew up listening to samba and I remember, since I was 11 years old, my spine straightening
up anytime I heard the drums from samba schools.
Q. Will Brazil win the World Cup?
AA: Who
knows. It would be great. However there are concerns with the World Cup and
social issues which might bring to the event some truths about Brazil.
BT: Haha…
not sure… a lot of teams can make it. Now there is also strong social movement
in Brazil, with people marching in the streets demanding hospitals and schools;
to the FIFA standard. A kind of a surprising move from the country of football –
but I see it as an evolution. Even loving the game and the cup!!
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